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I Was Wrong

When was the last time you changed your mind about an issue?

 

“If in the last few years you haven’t discarded a major opinion or acquired a new one, check your pulse. You may be dead.” – Gelett Burgess 

Or else – as in my case, Mister Burgess – you were right about everything in the first place. 

Seriously, I’ve moderated my views on some issues, rounding off the sharp edges as it were. But there are very few topics on which I’ve done a near 180-degree turn. 

One of those is hunting. I used to be completely opposed. I wasn’t a PETA-phile, mind you, but I thought hunters were basically cruel people who loved to kill defenseless creatures. 

Then I made friends with a hunter who showed me I was being a hypocrite. After all, I eat meat – chicken, beef, pork, and the best food of all time, bacon. 

Much of the livestock that ends up on supermarket shelves are raised in cramped and often inhumane conditions but it doesn’t stop me from making chicken parmesan for dinner. 

My hunter friend pointed out that it’s intellectually dishonest to happily eat meat but leave it to someone else to do the dirty work and then have the gall to think hunters are the bad guys. Venison is his main source of meat; he wastes nothing.  

The only people with completely clean hands in this debate are the vegans and I’m not planning to become one. I’m also not taking up hunting but I acknowledge that, unlike me, hunters are taking responsibility for their food supply. At least the deer have a decent life of freedom before they become dinner. That’s more than can be said for the non-free range chicken I served last night. 

I bring this up because debate in this country has become ever shriller and more polarized with the middle ground evaporating all the time. Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously said that everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. But most people are essentially cherry pickers – we choose which statistics we trust and arm ourselves with studies that agree with our opinion. 

Education writer Diane Ravitch was criticized for going from being a staunch supporter of the No Child Left Behind law to believing it is hurting education. If you read her explanation of her gradual metamorphosis, you realize she simply saw more and more evidence of the harm it was causing until she couldn’t support the law anymore.

Leftist writer Christopher Hitchens, who died last month, broke ranks with the left over several issues, including the Iraq War. 

You don’t have to agree with Ravitch or Hitchens to give them credit for allowing their views to evolve in light of new events and evidence. In other words, when we call someone a “flip-flopper” does it really mean he has an open mind? (Of course when a politician flip flops, there is always the question of whether it was for expediency or a true conversion.) 

So my question is this: When was the last time you changed your mind about an issue? Or let new evidence moderate your views? 

Related Topics: Christopher Hitches, Diane Ravitch, and Hunting

Joe R. Frinzi

10:34 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012

Changing or even just modifying one's beliefs is how we all grow as humans. None of us is born omniscient or all-knowing, so realizing that certain previously-held ideas may be off (especially those forged in our innocent youth) is actually a sign of strength, not weakness. I'm a vegetarian with no interest in hunting, but I have no qualms with those who choose to do so.

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Salisbury Resident

11:26 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012

" I'm a vegetarian with no interest in hunting, but I have no qualms with those who choose to do so."
Thank you for that statement Joe. You are one for who I would happily try to prepare a meal.

I Am Knowledge

11:24 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012

Diane Ravitch merely saw a way to continue making money after the Bush administration left. It's all about money for her. Anybody who listens to her is an idiot.

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Salisbury Resident

11:28 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012

I cannot believe you took this fine article written by Margie on decisions and totally turned it into a person bashing opportunity for yourself. Your mirror must be dirty...

I Am Knowledge

11:25 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012

Hunting to eat the meat is fine. Hunting for a trophy sucks. Bear hunters who want a rug... I always hope they get mauled.

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Robert Smigielski

3:01 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012

Also to Mr/Mrs "I Am Knowledge" black bear makes a great rug and IS ACTUALLY EATEN. The animal is similar in taste to pork and plenty of wild game cook books have recipes for preparing and serving black bear for the table. So you now have an opportunity to know even more about hunting.
Rob

Robert Smigielski

12:03 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012

In my opinion, going through public education system through the 1970’s -80’s I observe that we were taught improperly about the nature of hunting in America. Honestly, what did we learn about the Bison/Buffalo in school? We learned that they were one of several species of animals “hunted” to near extinction. Hunting was taught time and again as the CAUSE of wide spread elimination of certain animals. We even hear in the news of “hunters” illegally killing far more deer than they are legally allowed. We the name for that behavior is not hunting it is called poaching which is actually theft. We should be taught that Bison and other animals were wiped out by settlers and business people simply to make a profit. The current day concept of hunting was instituted by Teddy Rossevelt’s and his friends and they put in place limits on how much game could be take, seasons for hunting, and rules against selling wild animals for food counteract the very real observation that animals were treated as a limitless resource.
Rob Smigielski

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Jaded1

12:04 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012

A very thoughtful, well-written article. One of the best I've read in the Patch.

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Walt

1:33 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012

"So my question is this: When was the last time you changed your mind about an issue? Or let new evidence moderate your views? ":

Margie, my opinion will never change. No matter what you ask or say in your articles there will be a lot of comments that have nothing to do with your article. Most if not all of the comments will go off in all different directions. And most will be motivated by some very strong political belief of the author of the comments.

Nothing personal against you, just an observation of mine.

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Mark Jamison

2:42 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012

Margie, you were not entirely wrong. One of the few things I have enjoyed about growing older is gaining the ability/willingness to see the other side and adjust my opinions accordingly. That being said I don't think I've ever done a complete 180 but rather settled on the belief that the truth, no matter how muddy, is somewhere in the middle. Your use of deer hunting is a perfect example in that your argument that it is "more moral" to harvest a surplus of deer to put food on the table instead of promoting the horrific state of affairs that we find ourselves in regarding factory farming is in miy opinion spot on. However the photo you use to accent your article represents something all together different. (And I mean no offense to the person in the photo. I do not know him or his situation) Walt is right and I don't want to turn this into a debate over deer hunting (actually I do but I won't) but I have been arguing this particular subject from both sides for forty years and if nothing else I've learned that there is no clear cut right or wrong side of the argument but when we are all willing to "change our mind" even just a little we get a lot closer to the truth.

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Lenny

8:04 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012

I think a person's viewpoints resemble a lump of clay. When they are young, their viewpoints are molded easily, possibly changing many times in their young years. As a person gets older, their opinions on issues solidify based on their experiences-just like the way clay hardens. Eventually you reach a point where you are quite set in your ways, and just like a solid dried piece of clay, there isn't much you can do to change it.

I have seen my viewpoints change over the course of my life. When I was a teenager (early 90's), I was quite liberal on most issues. As I reached my 20's, my views started moving to the right, most notably when it comes to gay issues and abortion. When I found out that a few people I know had some negative experiences with homosexuality, and seeing the things you never hear about in the media, it really opened my eyes to the dark side of it. As for abortion, I just kinda sat on the fence until my son was born. Once that happened, I became what I would term "Pro-Child". I still hold a couple of liberal stands, such as on the environment, but my pendulum has swung to the right and has stayed there for a good number of years.

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Margie Peterson

11:00 am on Friday, January 20, 2012

Thank you, Jaded1, for the kind words and to everybody who took the time to comment. Walt, as far as comments go, I think some of these are very much to the point. But I agree that isn't always the case. Years ago I wrote a column that discussed some parenting issue and made the mistake of using the cliche "Everything else is basket weaving." I found out in no time how many basket weavers I had ticked off. More recently in a column on the PSSAs, I was essentially called an elitist by one commenter and a champion of mediocrity by another for the same column. It comes with the territory.

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